Holding it in the Road

Dr Umar Needs help in more than one way

Mr Grey Fox & Big Bad Harold

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Holding It In The Road Podcast Presents

Dr. Umar Johnson is under Fire after he says the FDMG school is at risk of closing and he doesn't have the money! Dr Umar has been getting donations for about 15 or more years and people want to know how is he in this situation now? Dr Umar says he owe or 20,000 in property tax. Will this be the end of FDMG?

Is the Good Doctor running a scam or is this some other things at work?

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What's up everybody? Welcome back to Holden in Row with Mr. Gray Fox and Big Bad Harold. What's going on, huh? Please do us a favor, won't cost you a dime and hit that like and subscribe button. Do us a big favor. Hey, Harold, bruh, Umar Johnson. I know you've been hearing everything that's been going on with the good brother, Dr. Umar. You know what I mean? What's your thoughts on what's going on with the good brother Umar? Man, I know we kinda talked about it a little bit before, man. If he is scamming, which man, brother, for you to be so articulate and so knowledgeable about everything from A to Z, especially dealing with our culture, I hate to see if y'all fraud, man. As far as the school wise, as far as you know, you're not. So man, if this brother been mismanaging all this money for all these years, man, he in for it, man. Not only. your namesake for a man, your namesake mean a lot. And right now his name looking bad, man. He had one of both his baby mamas earlier this year, then he had another random woman. He had a lot going on back to back to back. This man who has been talking about this school for as long as he been talking about getting donations from everybody, jousting back and forth with different people. This is... This is a damn shit show, man. It's for it to go to his left, man. It's pretty bad. I don't like it for the man, man, for the brother. I actually like the words he say, but his actions as far as a man, if he's actually been manipulating people about this school, which I did see him walk through school. He has a building, a foundation, from how I was looking, it's finna be going soon, I'm convinced, He a fraud. I ain't got to see no more. I mean, I kinda knew. But like you say, the brother's very articulate. And I told you how easily or how much we love articulate people. You get what I'm saying? I mean... This brother. been conning people for close to 20 years now. I guess the speaking engagements are legit. They got to be legit. But you come and you feed into that. And see, here goes the thing. Umar is a psychologist. So he know you understand what I'm saying. You get what I'm saying? yeah, he do. So he's been running this scheme with this school and it's like, okay, Michael Blackson done opened a school. It was other people that opened a school. I know people around here got a damn school. Now you getting all of these donations. What are you doing, bro? Biggest question. Yeah. See, and another thing that kind of gave it away for me is you really don't have a team of people that you working with. And we had this conversation a while ago. ah It was off the record, but we had this conversation a while ago. Like, dude, you don't have the structure set up at all. And as long as you've been running this scheme, if you was 100, you would have had a graduating class by now. Yeah, without a doubt, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah. 20-something years? yeah. somebody gonna really expose Umar. And the position that Umar in right now, somebody can come out and say anything about this brother and they gonna believe him. Yeah, yeah, and it's gonna fly. I don't know, did you see the, he had a interview I seen pop up, you know, got all this stuff popping up, that's the other thing. Everything popping up now. But he had a conversation with, what it was, L. Jamar. L. Jamar was, about Lord Jamal. m Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just ain't say Lord, but yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a conversation with him, man, and he was kind of trying to fill in the gaps, know, kind of try to brain down. guess he was catching some heat then, you know, trying to legitimize him. But then he also asked some real good questions. And one thing he gave him was, man, my wife's father-in-law opened a school. And he's been doing his thing. He did it from the ground up. He kind of talked with some people, started small. He said it was 200 students, lot. He started off with 200 students and three trailers. and built this way up and you know, got a bigger building and he didn't use, you know, no random funding from anybody if you want to keep it blank. But he was kind of saying, man, I better put in the word with him, you and him can have a conversation. And the Umar took offense to it. And that right there, I was like, wow, man. So you kind of been showing these red flags for a while. I know you get aggravated with other people saying you're a fraud, but your knowledge isn't the fraud. The fact of taking all this money to do a school when like you said, you know people who's around in Florida, then they got their own school. He said his father-in-law, which he actually does got a great school. I think it was in Brooklyn, New York, what it was the Trey Whitfield school. So, you know, he got that up and going in that website, everything. He got a beautiful school. I looked it up. um So it's other people that tried to chime in and help you, but you're saying you got a team and obviously you don't have a good team. or the team was just smoking mirrors, man. You just getting this paper, bouncing around, still doing your great conversations at colleges and things like that. But you're doing something with these multi-millions that you've been giving. You're doing something. Where's the secretary? Apparently he don't have one because he said that somebody put a damn letter or he didn't get a letter. Yeah, it was hanging on the door or something like that. They didn't email him or something like that. You should have somebody to handle that. have nobody that you working with. It's all you. Yeah, there's no way in hell you can do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah. I mean... He done burnt all his credibility. I hate that part. Yeah, he has. He has, man. He really has. for him? If he don't get the money himself, if he get his accounts open and open up the school for him, I think people don't even wanna, I don't think people really wanna mess with him now, but at least is he able to do it without donations, get his school, the structure not gone, he would have to go up under somebody else's wing. I don't think he can lead no more. Like how he's saying he wanna get the FMG Academy up himself, he would have to leave that. all together, just sell the building and everything and go up under somebody else. Your knowledge is good, but your hustle, get rid of it, man. Get rid of it. I think he's straight. I think this uh blow over and he'll be straight. Unless they put him in jail, which he could possibly wind up in. If it's a nonprofit, yeah. See, because, hey, look here, freeze and bank accounts. You get what I'm saying? That ain't, you understand what I'm Somebody got their eyes on you. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Unless they put him in jail, I think he gonna be good, You know why? Because it's so easy to con black people. be right back in a good grace. Thanks, though. It's easy to con us, bro. You talk good. You say the right words. You say the buzzwords. Hey, racist, racism, the man. You got to say that. Blame it on somebody else. You know, unless somebody come out with raw, solid proof, like some of these chicks he been dealing with. Mmm, it's another big thing. man, you know, he tricking, he give me five, six grand, you know what I mean? 10 bands, know, been doing it for years. yeah. That would be bad. man, that'd be bad. yeah. but he still can recover from that, bruh. I hope not. it's that bad and all that come out, I hope not. Come on, man. Us, as black people, hopefully we ain't that bad. God, dog. He ain't the only one! I know he ain't, I know he ain't. I know he ain't. make full-blown, lucrative careers out of conning Black people. You get what I'm saying? And we know they con men. They come in, and I'm talking about in all different types of professions. You know what I mean? Straight up con men. But the thing about some con men and women, they do produce. And see, that's what got him jammed up. He didn't produce. he never talked about a school man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? That's what's done jammed him up. He could, man, let me tell you something. For one, like I say, for one, like I say, this will blow over. He will be good. And unless they lock him up, if they lock him up, let's say they get him fired, he get out, he's still good. Think so? Nah, hey, uh. That's bad, Fox. you. I'm trying to tell you. Our track records show that if you are an articulate person and you say the right words and you cater to the right people, which is women, they got you, bruh. Not a lot of the fellas see you for what, you know, we know you a wolf. We know you a wolf. See what I'm saying? but you wouldn't harm an us or we ain't gonna knock the hustle, you know? a lot of us, you we ain't falling for that. Like you do have some brothers this out there, you know what I mean? They down for anything, as long as it's black. Yeah. And you got a few of them too. See what I'm saying? But as long as you say the right words and you cater to the right demographic, you good. I'm trying to tell you, our track record is horrible when it comes to dealing with con men. We got con, I'm talking about big, we don't wake up, we haven't woke up, bro. We haven't woke up. for certain kinds, you know, we'll see it. man. Like I say, we can call it out, we can scream it from the rooftop. It could be a well-known fact that this person is a damn con man or a con woman, however you want to put it. And as long as they say the right words and they are very articulate, they're sharp, nice dress. Yeah, come on back into the good grace. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on back, man. That is a very bad flow that I really don't like that. It makes it too easy for not only us as black people to hustle as anybody, white, anybody. Anybody can run a play on us, man. Like you say, Neely Fuller, we used to say, man, just, you got the foolishest thing you thought about? Man, run that by black people. Go run it by them, man. See what it do. uh yeah, hell yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm, yeah. The most silliest thing that you can think of, just write it by black people. Mm-hmm, yeah, mm-hmm. I really man, Uma has a lot of knowledge that I hate that he didn't just stick to that. His sermons he did at different schools. Cause you know, he done been up here at FAM. He done been at all over different black colleges, all over the continent. it's just like, why? Why did you spin your hustle to? The schools, man, you really didn't need that, And like you said, if he's able to come back, come back. he will be, and he ain't done, bruh. He is not done. are you gonna do? What else can you say that's gonna get by? And us is Blackfools. Are we really gonna let him come back with no damage? We gonna beat him up in the media and talk about it. We do that about everybody. But this man has to come to the table. He should come back begging. But he gotta show up, man. He gotta show up and do something actual positive for Blackfools instead of just talking like he was doing, man. because he done hustled for years. That's a lot of money for years to not put up nothing. We do know other people that has, you know, black schools. I did like the idea of what he was trying to do. You know, he wanted to cater straight to black men, to build up black men, which is a great thing to build a youth, to build a future. You know, that's what we stand for. And here we want the youth to be the next big stand for us. You know, we want the best knowledge that we can give to the youth to make a better future for all of us. But. He just run the game and he really wasn't he really wasn't doing. It sounded good, bro. That's all it, it just sounded good. Wait, the way he said it, you get what I'm saying? It sounded good. And a lot of people bought into it. This is what I like to see from the good Dr. Umar Johnson. Duh. Come clean, Tell the truth. You get what I'm saying? Just come on out, tell the truth. What you been doing? Be a man about it. If you got a problem, if you got some type, if you addicted, cause a lot of these people that get caught up in these sex things or whatever, they say, hey, look here, man, I'm going to get counseling. You know, I have a sex addiction. I got a drug addiction. I got a gambling addiction. You know what mean? And I'm going to get treatment. You'll get right back in people good graces, brother. Now, I'm not gonna send you no money and I never have and I never will. See, because I seen you from the start. Now, the brother talks real good. You got to get it to him. He talks real good. He could be a pastor. You know, I mean, he can preach. But I like for the brother to come clean because what's going to happen in bold prediction? You're going to have a lot of women come out and just start saying stuff about it. People are going to believe it because right now your word is no good. No good, man. Your name messed up. Yeah, your name is messed up. You done burnt your name. Everything that everybody's saying about you, man, I mean, really, you deserve it. know, yeah, man, I mean, man, you know, the first thing, the first knock on your name was that school. You shouldn't have never went down that road, And you had enough money to produce. Here goes another thing. He was not very transparent. No, Yo Jamal was talking about that. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. very transparent with, okay, this is exactly what's going on. We need this. This what we have. I mean, you asking people for money, man. You need to be very transparent. yeah. You know, I might wanna help you fund the plumbing and send some plumbers up there that I know. You know, he was for a long time, yeah. get X, Y, Z done, and as big as your name is in the black community, right? You can't find nobody to do that work for you. But then it's like, okay, you in Delaware. The hell you doing up there in Delaware? weird spot. Yeah. He had gave a rundown about how he found the building and all that. But like you said, Delaware land. Come on, bruh. in Georgia, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, somewhere like that man, know Texas. I mean people, hey look here, they probably come do it for free. what I was saying, yeah, get you some contracts. Yeah, come do it, yeah. But, you know, it is what it is, man. he gonna bounce back, bro. He gonna be good. He gonna be good. And people still gonna be sending him money. That's the other part I was gonna say. Are his black people gonna still just send him money blindly? Cause this right here, this right here is reminding me of how we do with politicians. Now we won't even fund a politician so we know it's ours, but we're gonna fund a doctor that now like we say 20 years been running a scam. We don't even fund and buy our own politicians. We have yet to buy our own politician to go for the president's, but yet we're fund a good talker. last time they had that, yeah, had that, yeah. Hey, that's gonna get you in trouble now. Yeah, yeah. I think they raised like $1.5 million for Kamala. I think... Her fraternity sent a lot of money and a bank. It was some bank that they said was around my black people. Bowling, rolling, marting. Rolled him on he was talking like a call to action, black man call to action. And it was like, I think they raised over, I know they raised over a million dollars. They raised over a million in like 24 hours. You know what I mean? So, but, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You just took that money. See, but the thing about Roland Martin, he got 500 grand of that right back. You understand what I'm saying? So he got his back on the back end. yeah, okay, okay. That's why he did it. He tap dance for a little money. Yeah, that was definitely another kind. Oh yeah. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. No sweat off his bones either. man, you know, just get on the phone and, and you know, a few months you get 500 grand. Man, shit, you can't beat that, man. Yeah. Like I say, man, it's a whole bunch of them like that. That's why I know he gonna be good, bro. It's, hey, it's just, it's his time. He, he on the carpet right now. People giving him. the blows. You know what I'm He gotta take the blows right now. They giving him what he deserved, right? But he will survive. He will survive, bro. I bet bread on it. yeah, yeah. I don't know about the Phoenix. You understand what saying? Come out the damn sewer. You know what I mean? But yeah, I think he gonna survive it, bro. He gonna be all right. It's too easy. mean, man, I'm trying to tell you it's too easy. I think they all get together and just, hey, think a play, like Neely Fuller say, know, just think a play. right at by us. Yeah. Hey, look how far I ran that play on him. 20 years. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's a long time, man. Like you say, he could have had a graduation class by then. Great, dude. He's not done. Unless they put him in jail and that'll only put them on pause for a minute. Now, like I said, if they give him five, 10, you get what I'm saying? He'll be right back out. Same old thing. You know what I mean? yeah. You got anything else, bro? Nah man, DACA, hang it the hell up. If you do come back to make a play, your play need to be under somebody else, You need to use that knowledge for something else to eliminate that school, man. Mm-mm. No. For one, like I said, I would like to see him just come clean. Man, get it off your chest, bro. Be a man, come clean. But as far as the rest of us go, it's way too many of us that fall for this foolishness over and over and over and over again. They say the right words in the right way. They got it broken down to a science. They do. right words, the right way, have any, you can have your way, you can have your way, whatever you want to do, you can have your way with us. And that's sad. What y'all think about it? Till the next time, y'all live right, play fair, I'll let us. Stay away from con men.

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